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by RogerB
Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:59 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: OT - Feed Finger Gouges Or ?
Replies: 24
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Re: OT - Feed Finger Gouges Or ?

The "rays" seem to be radially oriented - not parallel as expected from some coin striking damage/
by RogerB
Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:56 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: Comment about one of 1st 1878-S dollars struck
Replies: 4
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Comment about one of 1st 1878-S dollars struck

One of the first standard silver dollars (VAM-60) struck at San Francisco Mint on April 17 is this coin: 1878-S NGC One of First 10 Struck.jpg This is an 1878-S dollar engraved with the words, ”ONE OF THE FIRST TEN COINED APRIL 17TH FROM J. GUS. BURT” in neat capital letters. The engraving was cut m...
by RogerB
Sun Jul 03, 2022 4:29 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1878-S dollar. Can you separate fact from fiction?
Replies: 34
Views: 2389

Re: 1878-S dollar. Can you separate fact from fiction?

RE: "...the 1000 Vam 60s that were minted on April 17 or morning of April 18 were given away (j Gus Bert) or put into circulation." The VAM-60s were all made on the 17th ending when the reverse die cracked. We know these were delivered to the Cashier on the 18th along with 1,000+ from a different di...
by RogerB
Sun Jul 03, 2022 4:23 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1878-S dollar. Can you separate fact from fiction?
Replies: 34
Views: 2389

Re: 1878-S dollar. Can you separate fact from fiction?

A further bit of info.

The SF shipping report of subsidiary silver coin and standard silver dollars ending June 30, 1878 shows 200,000 silver dollars shipped to San Francisco area. [E-229 box 10 of 17]
by RogerB
Sun Jul 03, 2022 3:07 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1878-S dollar. Can you separate fact from fiction?
Replies: 34
Views: 2389

Re: 1878-S dollar. Can you separate fact from fiction?

Here is the Engraver's estimate of dollar die production capacity.
18780411 Number of dies Mint can make and ship per week_Page_1.jpg
18780411 Number of dies Mint can make and ship per week_Page_1.jpg (166.77 KiB) Viewed 743 times
by RogerB
Sun Jul 03, 2022 3:01 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1878-S dollar. Can you separate fact from fiction?
Replies: 34
Views: 2389

Re: 1878-S dollar. Can you separate fact from fiction?

RE: "On 4/24/78 Linderman telegraph to Dodge requesting that 5 Morgan’s “of this coinage be forward” from the first strike. Dodge has a problem, they were given out to the dignitaries." 1) Nothing demonstrates a request for coins from the first dies. The same request was made of Carson. All Linderma...
by RogerB
Sat Jul 02, 2022 4:24 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1878-S dollar. Can you separate fact from fiction?
Replies: 34
Views: 2389

Re: 1878-S dollar. Can you separate fact from fiction?

Thank you to all who responded to my request !
:)
by RogerB
Fri Jul 01, 2022 9:13 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1878-S dollar. Can you separate fact from fiction?
Replies: 34
Views: 2389

Re: 1878-S dollar. Can you separate fact from fiction?

These three might help. The April coinage report has not been located. It should have been in E-229 among several boxes that contained only SF letters and documents. The May-June report is from one of those boxes and shows the quantities of good pieces struck from each numbered die. (Usually, such t...
by RogerB
Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:10 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1878-S dollar. Can you separate fact from fiction?
Replies: 34
Views: 2389

Re: 1878-S dollar. Can you separate fact from fiction?

That is what I understood. Where did this come from: "We also know that the VAM 57 and 26 used the same reverse." This statement clearly says VAM 26 and 57 used the same ("identical')reverse....or is that supposed to refer the the REV HUB design not the specific die? BTW -- the following from the SF...
by RogerB
Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:07 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1878-S dollar. Can you separate fact from fiction?
Replies: 34
Views: 2389

Re: 1878-S dollar. Can you separate fact from fiction?

RE: "We do know that one that was used and condemned was the VAM 60 obverse. We also know that the VAM 57 and 26 used the same reverse." Wait a minute....in one place I'm told the VAM 60 reverse was not used with any but the one obverse die. Also, that the obverse was paired with several other reve...
by RogerB
Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:06 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1878-S dollar. Can you separate fact from fiction?
Replies: 34
Views: 2389

Re: 1878-S dollar. Can you separate fact from fiction?

RE: "We do know that one that was used and condemned was the VAM 60 obverse. We also know that the VAM 57 and 26 used the same reverse." Wait a minute....in one place I'm told the VAM 60 reverse was not used with any but the one obverse die. Also, that the obverse was paired with several other rever...
by RogerB
Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:00 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1878-S dollar. Can you separate fact from fiction?
Replies: 34
Views: 2389

Re: 1878-S dollar. Can you separate fact from fiction?

The "Five standard dollars of this coinage" merely means Linderman wants 5 coins from those currently being made up to that date -- i.e., "Don't make anything special." This is a common request and is also used in relation to selecting Annual Assay coins and Special Assay pieces. There are multiple ...
by RogerB
Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:09 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1878-S dollar. Can you separate fact from fiction?
Replies: 34
Views: 2389

Re: 1878-S dollar. Can you separate fact from fiction?

Permit me to state up front that "die progressions" involve a lot of assumptions and I really do not pay much attention to them. Here are a few facts and I leave it to you and other dedicated specialists to take things from there. Dodge received 10 pairs on the 16th. His next batch of 15 arrived on ...
by RogerB
Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:18 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1878-S dollar. Can you separate fact from fiction?
Replies: 34
Views: 2389

Re: 1878-S dollar. Can you separate fact from fiction?

The Ajax toggle press in use on the 17th produced the same pressure regardless of how it was activated -- manually or by power belt. (This was an immense advantage of Peale's 1836 design.) It would be wasteful and pointless to take the time to adjust the spacing wedge - which had to be tested every ...
by RogerB
Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:26 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1878-S dollar. Can you separate fact from fiction?
Replies: 34
Views: 2389

Re: 1878-S dollar. Can you separate fact from fiction?

RE: "So Dodge authorized that the die pair of Vam 58 were to be polished up and the first five were sent to Linderman. The progression for this run is as follow: Vam 58, Vam 56 and finally Vam 62. Here is one of the other 5 ( I believe) that was sent to Director Linderman." This might be true, but t...
by RogerB
Tue Jun 28, 2022 1:59 am
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1878-S dollar. Can you separate fact from fiction?
Replies: 34
Views: 2389

Re: 1878-S dollar. Can you separate fact from fiction?

OK. Simple answer w/o footnotes. Dies received late April 16. First coins struck afternoon of April 17. Ten (approx) for distribution, then rest run at power until reverse die broke just short of 1,000 pieces. Only coins from this die pair, called VAM-60, were made the first day. No other coins shar...
by RogerB
Mon Jun 27, 2022 11:32 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1878-S VAM 60 shared reverse
Replies: 6
Views: 705

Re: 1878-S VAM 60 shared reverse

Thanks! Doing a bit of false "attribution" squishing and needed some expert details. :)
by RogerB
Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:45 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1878-S VAM 60 shared reverse
Replies: 6
Views: 705

Re: 1878-S VAM 60 shared reverse

Thanks all. That is what I understood, but wanted to be sure my info was accurate. BTW -- There were no "interns" etc. at the SF Mint doing die hardening. Responsibility for poor die life was quickly fixed on Thomas Scott, an old hand at San Francisco who hardened dies, and was considered not up to ...
by RogerB
Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:33 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1878-S VAM 60 shared reverse
Replies: 6
Views: 705

1878-S VAM 60 shared reverse

Do any VAMS besides 1878-S VAM 60 share the identical reverse die?

At the SF Mint only 2 reverse and 7 obverse dies were usable out of 10 of each received on the 16th.

Thanks!