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by TheYokel
Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:37 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1900 O/CC Speculation
Replies: 36
Views: 601

Re: 1900 O/CC Speculation

In 1900 the New Orleans Mint experienced many problems with dies. There was a standing monthly order of 10 Silver Dollar die pair. In at least one instance they had to order an additional 5 die par. Most of the problem's with the dies can be attributed to the improper hardening of the dies and plan...
by TheYokel
Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:23 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1900 O/CC Speculation
Replies: 36
Views: 601

Re: 1900 O/CC Speculation

In 1900 the New Orleans Mint experienced many problems with dies. There was a standing monthly order of 10 Silver Dollar die pair. In at least one instance they had to order an additional 5 die par. Most of the problem's with the dies can be attributed to the improper hardening of the dies and plan...
by TheYokel
Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:43 am
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: Die Studies
Replies: 49
Views: 434

Re: Die Studies

I have a continuum of a rant about doing die studies. Here is a conundrum for you to think about. The series has a listed mintage of 657K coins. But there are 16 base VAMs listed. This would make an average of 41K average coins per die minted if every listed VAM had a different obverse and reverse ...
by TheYokel
Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:34 am
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: Die Studies
Replies: 49
Views: 434

Re: Die Studies

impairedsquirrel wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:28 am
Hehe, hey Alan, I think you and I debated this a few times... until my brain caught up with the idea that you are studying dies, not VAMs (hint, hint).
Would it be safe to say "One and done for the die and two and through for the VAM"?
Yes. 100% exactly.
by TheYokel
Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:30 am
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: Die Studies
Replies: 49
Views: 434

Re: Die Studies

I'm out. There is a saying in St. Louis, "YCFS". Calling someone stupid instead of trying to understand where they are coming from isn't fruitful to anyone. Let me try to simplify my stance on all of this. VAMing isnt die identification. It's a game. If LVA cared about individually identifying ever...
by TheYokel
Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:13 am
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: Die Studies
Replies: 49
Views: 434

Re: Die Studies

Again, the point is seemingly being missed. If a One & Done die marker or two are identified for each distinct obverse and reverse die, then you might understand how the One & Done actually works. It works irrespective of die marriage. I agree with you LDMG... That works for individual die identifi...
by TheYokel
Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:03 am
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: Die Studies
Replies: 49
Views: 434

Re: Die Studies

LateDateMorganGuy wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:02 am
Yokel, you made my point. A myriad of reasons why it won't work.................
If it weren't for die incest and re-marriages I'd agree with you.
by TheYokel
Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:56 am
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1890 Morgan broken letters
Replies: 11
Views: 112

Re: 1890 Morgan broken letters

CascadeChris wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:53 am
...kenny wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 12:45 am
If you look at the Reverse die, where would the 'O' come from?... :lol:
I believe he's thinking dropped element, not clash Kenny..
Dropped element would be on the surface of the coin and obfuscate the letters in LIBERTY, and not rest behind it, no?
by TheYokel
Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:05 am
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: Die Studies
Replies: 49
Views: 434

Re: Die Studies

Folks reject One & Done markers. I have never understood why :roll: Every time I suggest it I get a myriad of reasons why it won't work. But it does work actually. My feeling: One and Done works great for ID'ing in some cases. Not for studying. Lots of single photo listings show only a single pup o...
by TheYokel
Tue Feb 18, 2020 12:03 am
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1880-S VAM-12 ??
Replies: 4
Views: 34

Re: 1880-S VAM-12 ??

CascadeChris wrote:
Mon Feb 17, 2020 10:58 pm
Yuppers. That tic in the 0 is what I look for, then the diagonal line in the hair D.. Uh, oh. Decisions decisions!

The potential buyer tipped his hand. Bad move..
Not sure how sought after that VAM is, as I see them while browsing occasionally, but damn that's a nice grade/example :)
by TheYokel
Mon Feb 17, 2020 11:14 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: Die Studies
Replies: 49
Views: 434

Re: Die Studies

Welcome back Ant! Hey, have you read "From Mine To Mint"? It was written by some Roger something or other and is VERY detailed in the workings of the mint... a guy like that would be great to have around here for his highly informed opinions on matters such as this! When die studies are done I'd al...
by TheYokel
Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:59 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1883-O VAM-39A ??
Replies: 11
Views: 108

Re: 1883-O VAM-39A ??

Do we need a new VAM for pitting on a series that it's basically the norm? Label it LDS...
by TheYokel
Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:41 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: Die Studies
Replies: 49
Views: 434

Re: Die Studies

I think JR hit the nail on the head. I only used average number of coins per die as an example. I think the 1900-S die useage table showed a few dies close to 500K per die? But my point is that "new" VAMs get listed when many, many times they are just different die stages or states of previously li...
by TheYokel
Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:28 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: Die Studies
Replies: 49
Views: 434

Re: Die Studies

A good example is the aforementioned 93-CC. There are five listed marriages and seriously, it's probably already one too many. They may have ordered 20 pairs of dies, but they damn sure didn't use them. There were more dies used to coin the 89-CC issue and with that one marriage accounts for nearly...
by TheYokel
Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:23 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: Die Studies
Replies: 49
Views: 434

Re: Die Studies

RE: #1 I refer to orders not "used." If the steel were deficient, or there were some other systemic defect, use would increase - not just orders. The Engraver's complaint is that Carson and New Orleans (and sometimes San Francisco) ordered more dies than they needed, then returned many unused. This...
by TheYokel
Mon Feb 17, 2020 6:59 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: Die Studies
Replies: 49
Views: 434

Re: Die Studies

3. All dies made from the same hub were probably not identical - that is the basis of "die varieties." Every die responded differently to repeated heat treatment and impression from the hub. Sometimes these differences required surface alteration (re-basining) at Philadelphia or another mint. Somet...
by TheYokel
Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:47 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: Die Studies
Replies: 49
Views: 434

Re: Die Studies

Carson City used 20 pairs to mint 670k in 1893. And they took really good care of their dies. The VAMs given to those dies would depend on the hubbing of the die itself, not the number of pairs used. 10 obverse dies could all be VAM-1 if they were made from the same hub that didn't show any unique ...
by TheYokel
Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:49 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: Die Studies
Replies: 49
Views: 434

Re: Die Studies

I have a continuum of a rant about doing die studies. I am currently working on the 1888-S series, thanks to Big John (BJV). Here is a conundrum for you to think about. The series has a listed mintage of 657K coins. But there are 16 base VAMs listed. This would make an average of 41K average coins ...
by TheYokel
Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:41 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1900 O/CC Speculation
Replies: 36
Views: 601

Re: 1900 O/CC Speculation

Ever find those shipping records?..
by TheYokel
Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:51 am
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: AOH 1882-O/S VAM-5 EDS in NGC AU... Details >.<
Replies: 5
Views: 203

Re: AOH 1882-O/S VAM-5 EDS in NGC AU... Details >.<

No disrespect to you, but what do you mean "picked it raw" ? It is slabbed and attributed. Glad to see you are here again. That's my personal collection, lol. I submitted it last year on here. This thread is almost 12 months old :P I see the PL in the fields. Mine was a DMPL. Thank you. It's so muc...