VAMWorld 2.0

By the way, some folks may wonder how I can tell certain things in doing die studies. Many of you know this already based on your experience. The following is an example. There are apparently two different obverse dies used in the VAM-6 family. Meaning, the VAM-6 reverse is used with 2 different obv...

Not sure what caused the "issues" on BJV's coin. But an observation is that for some reason the Morgan's coming out of the SF mint have excessive die ejection/sliding issues. So a lot of the "doubling" issues listed for certain VAMs may not be in the die, but from the ejection/sliding issues of the ...

John, a couple of things. The reverse die was also used on VAM-3 (near date) and VAM-5. The marriage you have is the middle (or second) marriage as I recall. The obverse was used in a previous, earlier marriage with an unrelated reverse die. I think the "doubling" you see on the mint mark is MDD. It...

It is on one reverse die that was used in two different die marriages.

John, does your coin have a die gouge on the obverse between the 1st & 2nd right stars just outside the denticles?

All good on the VAM front. Thanks Brent for all you do.

Maybe not what everyone would do, but I treat the later listings with more reliable PUPs as the go-to VAM for a certain die pair, rather than earlier listed VAMs with little to no PUPs listed or plated. In this case, when LVA listed the VAM-14, he was not listing "ticks" of clashed letters. People c...

I got a Mallis and Armstrong award a ways back. I am out of town so can't look at the dates. If Messy can't find them, I will report back when I get home. I am still waiting for the VAM of the Year Award for the 1903-O VAM-22 from 2019. Still waiting, still waiting, still waiting.......................

Roger, I went thru the link you posted for mint correspondence from 12/88 to 2/89 while on a 4 hour plane flight today. I did not find a mint usage table for the 1888-S dies. But an interesting read for the parts I actually stopped and read. Thanks for the link and history lesson.

John, I didn't find one in my die study. Maybe Wayne has found one or at least some thoughts on the subject.

What is inherent in this "hobby" is that everyone can forge their own path, or follow their own interests, which may change over time. While I have no interest in 1921 scribbles, those that do seem passionate about them. I would never take on a die study of the 1900-Os because of the high mintage. B...

I'm out. There is a saying in St. Louis, "YCFS".

Again, the point is seemingly being missed. If a One & Done die marker or two are identified for each distinct obverse and reverse die, then you might understand how the One & Done actually works. It works irrespective of die marriage.

Yokel, you made my point. A myriad of reasons why it won't work.................

Folks reject One & Done markers. I have never understood why Every time I suggest it I get a myriad of reasons why it won't work. But it does work actually.

For this VAMmer, Rob is correct. I do not look at what is on VW, and I really don't pay attention to the VAM listings either. I just go thru coins and document different dies, different die marriages, different die stages, different die states. Only once I have done that, do I go and see if anything...

I think JR hit the nail on the head. I only used average number of coins per die as an example. I think the 1900-S die useage table showed a few dies close to 500K per die? But my point is that "new" VAMs get listed when many, many times they are just different die stages or states of previously lis...

John, that would seem to be a VAM-5/5A. Apparently Leroy saw it as a C3a reverse. Go figure. Your observation is what makes VAM listing tuff and die studies imperative. What is one man's left mint mark is another man's centered & upright.

I have a continuum of a rant about doing die studies. I am currently working on the 1888-S series, thanks to Big John (BJV). Here is a conundrum for you to think about. The series has a listed mintage of 657K coins. But there are 16 base VAMs listed. This would make an average of 41K average coins p...

Die studies folks, die studies. Listen to BigBub. He has been studying the 00-Os for a long time. With the mintage as high as it was for this series, it is inevitable that duplicate listings/ different die marriages/different die states/different die stages would mess up the listings. Take it from s...