VAMWorld 2.0

It’s not all about the 1889-P VAM-23A/VAM-23B obverse die. Part of it is, but part of it has to do with the reverse die. There is no doubt that the deepest clashed IN known in the Morgan Dollar series created a lot of die stress on the obverse die. Add two more hard clashing events (1 on die sequenc...

Not even close. How many coins did you submit to LVA? Four is that correct? This is one of the things you keep missing, in order to let the dies, do the talking and see all the facts they present, you need a total of 19 coins. Your submittal was not even close to that. So how could you have even hal...

Oh yes it does. It has everything to do with letting the reverse die talk to you. It shows more of the facts and additional ones that I have been talking about. When you did your submittal to LVA you knew very little about the facts behind the reverse die. All you proved was the reverse die for the ...

That is EXACTLY what I did and the 'softer than normal obverse' is what I found as the most likely explanation. You already know I've looked at the various stages in hand at length. I'm hard pressed to see an actual conclusion from you beyond repeatedly saying I'm wrong. I'll repeat my question sin...

I'll ask again - why did the obverse and reverse react differently? If you can't or won't answer, then this discussion is pointless I have said this several times before, so here we go again, part of the answer to your question is letting the 1889-P VAM-23A/23B, VAM-7, VAM-7a, VAM-7B1 and VAM-7B2 r...

You can not actually know the number of coins struck by this die - the best you can do is make a guess based on apparent scarcity. The VAM 23A is legitimately rare, while the various stages of VAM 23B are scarce at best. It is clear they are harder to find than many other 89 varieties. I do not acc...

Ok. That big chunk that you are referring to on the 1889-P VAM-23B is the LDS of die sequence #4 and LVA in his plate photo list it as a “Die Chip”, not a die crack or a die break. Next, “What about the big chunks at the bases of multiple letters?” LVA calls it die roughness, not a die crack or a di...

Ok! Let’s look at a couple more facts. Shown below is page 2 of your September 2020 letter from LVA and jumping down to paragraph 4 it shows you sold the soft die theory to LVA and he bought it. In the letter he does mention the possibility of the 1889-P VAM-23A/VAM-23B as not going through the die ...

So what other plausible cause is there for the clearly atypical clashing and erosion this obverse experienced? How do you known an improperly hardened die can't strike a bunch of coins? The theory (and yes, it is a theory) about a clash involving a softer than normal die is a possible explanation f...

Let’s keep in mind that the theory, improperly annealed obverse die for the 1889-P VAM-23A/VAM23B has not been proven. It is just a theory. When one let’s, the die do the talking another story starts to emerge. There is no doubt that the obverse die for VAM-23A/VAM-23B shows major die stress (weakne...

I'll finish the new VAM page tomorrow. Need a little more info on the Obverse & Reverse type.

VAM-20A page has been updated.

I would definitely mention the very rare 1889-P VAM-23A.

Nice one. I'll update the page for you.

Hi Alan,

Understand. He was a HA Legacy client and so am I. Just trying to figure out if they offered to come out to your house and if so, is that extra?

Hi Alan, Sorry to see you selling most of your collection, but we all must cross that bridge at some point in time. Question for you, when you contacted HA, did they offer to come at to your house at look at your collection? I helped a friend's widow bout a year ago liquidate his collection and HA c...

WOW is an understatement.

Prompted by the recent post - http://www.vamworld.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6543 by @vampicker, that should be lauded and applauded!, as well as the story I shared ( http://www.vamworld.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6541 ), I am curious to hear opinions from others of the following thought. The...

Since shortly after the SSDC registry went live there have been a number of folks that wanted a 'Rotated Die" set added. That may come to fruition. I need to know what VAMs are known with rotated dies - Please let me know if you know..... Thanks! There already is a Morgan Dollar rotated die set in ...

Appreciate this post because I continue to learn. Been hunting the same hunt unsuccessfully but holding out hope for that elusive 23A in all her glory. Gary If it happens...you will never forget it. I still remember when I found mine (local coin gallery). It was just like yesterday. Dreams do come ...