VAMWorld 2.0

I'm guessing what you're seeing on the mint mark is machine doubling.

Very well. I'll come up with a proposal and run it by the 78-S folks.

The mint wouldn't take a die out of service to repunch the date on it. The die was already hardened for use. Splitting a listing into multiple listings requires coins representing all potential listings to be submitted for examination. There also needs to be a clear difference between them such that...

vamnuke wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 01, 2023 1:53 pm

“Should I do the same for 78-S this year? 8, 36, 43, 47, 78, 86, 103 could all use makeovers in that department.”

Big undertaking; 1G, 51 & 63 are currently split, too.

So is that a "Yes, please" vote?

Circulated 1878 Rev of 79 can be difficult to attribute. There are three Top 100 VAMs (203, 220, 223) that are easily attributed simply by looking at or near the R in PLURIBUS. I always start here. If I don't get a match, it's probably going to take me a while, especially on a circulated coin.

Many great points on this thread, love what Roger is saying. But I'm gonna go ahead and address the elephant in the room. The deeply embedded denigration of profit motivation is all but destroyed VAMs. Is sad but true. I can remember years ago when I was very young and came on VAMworld (2005? 2006?...

Obv. die was used on V28 For V8.1: 1) EDS IS 2-sided PL; die crack already exists from the neck to the denticles 2) Dies clashed; very noticeable on reverse; clash marks at both wreath sides, and clashing goes up thru 'n' yet OBV just has solid line in front of neck (no letter transfer) 3) REV die ...

1878 clashers are really special in my thinking, but as always i hate all the confusing die configuration stuff, as it simply adds frustrating details to a already to many PUPS venue What ever happened to SIMPLE VAMMING? IMHO Every collector is different. Newer collectors should keep it simple and ...

If you use the search terms ""1921-D" gouge bow" (1921-D must be in quotes because of the dash) you will find it.

One of the issues is that VAMs have become sufficiently popular (all over most auction sites, Heritage has special VAM sales, everyone knows about VAMWorld) that people see them and get started without guidance. Many that come here are at first looking for quick answers and are never seen again. Thi...

Tough call on whether it's a positive or negative thing. I find the VAM more exciting than the strike-thru, so would buy it for that and the strike-thru would be a bonus, but not one I'd pay for, sort of like getting an extra cherry in my brandy old fashioned. Were this on a generic 79-S, it would b...

@keilg1 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Those are both wins in my book ..... @DHalladay and @Unc90o .. I absolutely can see the potential for say a v48 hangnail to be a v49... or a 7/8 weak tail feather to be a v44, especially in the old days when all folks had was the VAM encyclopedia to look at ......

I have a few I see things in under microscope but can't get what I'm seeing to show up in photos, which would be hugely helpful for making overlays in photoshop to find a match. It makes me want to find someone with access to a scanning electron microscope and beg for their scan. Are there any know...

There is currently a VAM 22 listed. Was what is now called VAM 1F EDS originally listed as VAM 22 before 2000? If so, what was the specification? Doubled/tripled reverse? If presented with the current 1F EDS, 1F1, 1F2 and the reverse is a doubled or tripled die, I might be inclined to renumber them ...

I would call it VAM 1F EDS, title it "Normal dies" and mention the scratches below the eye and the dies not yet beign clashed. Once we know what the die pair is, there's nothing to gain by labeling it ambiguously as VAM 1.

I don't see anything big enough here to list. At least one of those cracks would have to have something significant break off to get listed. "Displaced fields" in peripheral cracks are usually just die wear. Most should not have been listed, in my opinion.

UNCLE BINGO wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 17, 2023 7:08 pm

Jodemyer wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 17, 2023 5:19 am

Thankyou! @messydesk
I vote @UNCLE BINGO to do die study!

Pretty sure 110 die pairs would be a job for Superman or @fogie
and not this kid

"A journey of a thousand miles..."

You'll also learn a bit along the way.

There are two obverse dies for 1902-O Micro Os, so those could actually be VAM 96. The 96-O and 00-O only had one obverse paired with the Micro O reverse.

I've been approached by Winston Zack, who is the author of the "Bad Metal" series about contemporary counterfeits. He's in need of good full-coin pictures of the following from the Micro O family for his third volume, which will include silver dollars: • 1893-O VAM 9 • 1894-O VAM VNA-B • 1896-O VAM ...