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by messydesk
Fri Dec 02, 2022 7:00 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1896-P VAM-5A obverse scratches?
Replies: 4
Views: 80

Re: 1896-P VAM-5A obverse scratches?

Neat Double! Part of me wishes that the initial descriptions on sort by date was more detailed, like "Extreme Doubled One", but another part really appreciates that it isn't.. it makes you hunt and learn. There's a "signal-to-noise ratio" optimization that is needed for titles and descriptions. Pre...
by messydesk
Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:18 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1900-P near 2x date C3 rev - not seeing it described
Replies: 6
Views: 45

Re: 1900-P near 2x date C3 rev - not seeing it described

Near date with C3 reverse and nothing else notable is VAM 5.
by messydesk
Thu Dec 01, 2022 5:42 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1900-P near 2x date C3 rev - not seeing it described
Replies: 6
Views: 45

Re: 1900-P near 2x date C3 rev - not seeing it described

Lips are definitely machine doubled. Magnitude and direction are similar to if not the same as the date. The date is punched into the die separately from the hubbing until 1909. Seeing similar doubling on both the date and devices of this coin help confirm that it's machine doubling. This effect isn...
by messydesk
Thu Dec 01, 2022 3:48 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1900-P near 2x date C3 rev - not seeing it described
Replies: 6
Views: 45

Re: 1900-P near 2x date C3 rev - not seeing it described

My first reaction is machine doubling. How does the first right star look?
by messydesk
Thu Dec 01, 2022 3:45 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1896-P VAM-5A obverse scratches?
Replies: 4
Views: 80

Re: 1896-P VAM-5A obverse scratches?

Looks like die scratches in the cap. I imagine they are always on this die. I think I have a VAM 5 or 5A (they quite possibly are the same) somewhere. I'll have to find it and check. My inclination would be to revise the VAM 5 description to note the scratches unless I'm shown a VAM 5 without them.
by messydesk
Thu Dec 01, 2022 5:39 am
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1921-S Vam 1B4C (new stage) Thorn or Thornhead (new variety)
Replies: 10
Views: 207

Re: 1921-S Vam 1B4C (new stage) Thorn or Thornhead (new variety)

The reverse die was changed between VAM 1B4c and 1B5 as far as I know, but they're both classified as D2a reverses.
by messydesk
Wed Nov 30, 2022 9:56 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1921-S Vam 1B4C (new stage) Thorn or Thornhead (new variety)
Replies: 10
Views: 207

Re: 1921-S Vam 1B4C (new stage) Thorn or Thornhead (new variety)

The text in previous supplements for VAM 1B4b said, "Added thin die gouge between E and D below wreath bow on later 1B4b die states." This is what was made VAM 1B4c in the interest of tracking the die changes that collectors of this high profile series are interested in.
by messydesk
Wed Nov 30, 2022 6:46 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1921-S Vam 1B4C (new stage) Thorn or Thornhead (new variety)
Replies: 10
Views: 207

Re: 1921-S Vam 1B4C (new stage) Thorn or Thornhead (new variety)

Leroy actually mentioned it in either the 1B4b or 1B5 listing before this was listed. He had the opportunity to add it at one time, but declined, presumably since it was only a change in the reverse.
by messydesk
Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:27 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: From patterns to a VAM-9 launch - any historical info?
Replies: 9
Views: 171

Re: From patterns to a VAM-9 launch - any historical info?

Classic quote to extend RogerB's comment about the artistic abilities of some of the players involved in our (non-darkside) hobby. This one from none other than the incredible sculpter and designer of multiple stunning coins, Augustus Saint-Gaudens. In wrtiting to President Theodore Roosevelt, ASG ...
by messydesk
Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:32 am
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1924 peace new vam?
Replies: 3
Views: 108

Re: 1924 peace new vam?

It's currently listed as VAM 1H1. There used to be a VAM 1H2, but that was delisted. I would favor renumbering VAM 1H1 as VAM 1H.
by messydesk
Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:17 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: New to VAM analytics...
Replies: 19
Views: 227

Re: New to VAM analytics...

I'll start with your 34-D you labeled VAM 1. I would call this VAM 6 - small D tilted right. Use ONE as a baseline for what's horizontal and you'll see the tilt in the mint mark. Proper rotation of pictures is very helpful, if not critical, in identifying these sorts of things.
by messydesk
Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:20 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: From patterns to a VAM-9 launch - any historical info?
Replies: 9
Views: 171

Re: From patterns to a VAM-9 launch - any historical info?

Quick decision time, too, to shift to 7 as the final/rest-of-the-year approach, because the working dies that were sent to San Fran and Carson City all were only 7 tf (B1 or B2) versions? Prompting other questions about how long the 8 tf dies were used - i.e., between March and... April? May? Later...
by messydesk
Sun Nov 27, 2022 9:58 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: New to VAM analytics...
Replies: 19
Views: 227

Re: New to VAM analytics...

If you see something specific on your coin, a picture is worth a thousand words. Note, however, that the picture-to-word exchange rate doesn't necessarily scale with the number of pictures.
by messydesk
Sun Nov 27, 2022 6:57 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: From patterns to a VAM-9 launch - any historical info?
Replies: 9
Views: 171

Re: From patterns to a VAM-9 launch - any historical info?

I flipped through Morgan's sketchbook to see if there was evidence of him wanting a specific number of tail feathers at a certain point, and there wasn't. Eight may have just looked better than seven on that iteration of the reverse die. Had they not been pressed into production when they were, the ...
by messydesk
Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:12 pm
Forum: Buy, Sell, Trade
Topic: Time to order 2023 Calendar!
Replies: 2
Views: 73

Re: Time to order 2023 Calendar!

No order form, just send a PM.
by messydesk
Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:10 am
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1890 O mm set right help
Replies: 12
Views: 140

Re: 1890 O mm set right help

VAM 16B has been renumbered to VAM 37.
by messydesk
Fri Nov 25, 2022 11:56 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1890 O mm set right help
Replies: 12
Views: 140

Re: 1890 O mm set right help

Very nice denticle impression coin. I agree that it's not a High O. Thanks for bringing this up.
by messydesk
Fri Nov 25, 2022 11:17 pm
Forum: Buy, Sell, Trade
Topic: Time to order 2023 Calendar!
Replies: 2
Views: 73

Time to order 2023 Calendar!

Now taking orders for my 2023 coin calendar. The price this year is $22 (includes shipping in the US), which gets you a wall calendar with a different coin photo that I've taken for each month. The calendar is printed on heavy card stock with glossy pictures of a diverse assortment of eye candy. Thi...
by messydesk
Wed Nov 23, 2022 4:16 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1921-D VAM 5C question
Replies: 4
Views: 128

Re: 1921-D VAM 5C question

I'd call it VAM 5C EDS, since it's its own die pair. The description on my label would include something like, "early die stage before break in S forms." I could possibly be convinced to split it into 5C1 (Scribbles only) and 5C2 (Scribbles + break) since they're easily distinguishable and you would...
by messydesk
Tue Nov 22, 2022 11:40 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: Collector's East Coast vs West Coast
Replies: 5
Views: 186

Re: Collector's East Coast vs West Coast

A quick, unscientific survey of submissions to me over the past year shows the Southeast being represented most often.