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Hey All who respond a Big THANK YOU :D AS for the Numbers on the ID TAG do you all think those Numbers may help???? :popcorn: No. Inventory numbers at best, possibly just meaningless numbers to make it look like sophisticated inventory numbers. The bottom one has the date and grade encoded into it ...

I take it the other side of the insert is blank. Chances are this is some boiler room flip. The tag was printed on a band printer, probably in the mid to late '80s as prices on silver dollars with grades was first starting to take off bigly. The lack of any identification tells me the seller didn't ...

I had a chance to look at a scarce early die stage of the 78-S VAM 16 side-by-side with the one everyone has (thanks lewisr2 ). The EDS has the gouge in the eagle's right wing extending far into the left field, while the more common one has it polished away, along with a light clash. This is the sam...

Waiting for one more inbound shipment, then it'll be ready to go, probably the week after the ANA show.

I usually see this one in XF-AU grades, so an MS63 is a pretty good pick. I wouldn't call it rare in circulated grades, but it probably is in MS63.

Moved to "What's it Worth" forum.

I'll be at table 1860 this year.

SilverToken wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 11, 2022 12:21 pm

OK

Then is it just considered a clash on the denticles, crushing them 1/2 way down?

Not a clash at all. A clash is when dies hit each other and cause subsequent coins to show the after-effects. Did you happen to catch the doubled stars?

I don't see a collar clash on that coin.

Maybe, maybe not.

demetri wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:57 am

How can that be? is it circulated then? How can the surface be PL if it has wear?

Light wear that results in an AU58 grade can still leave sufficient mirrors in the fields to qualify the coin for a PL designation. I haven't seen a 55PL, if the mirrors are still there, it should be graded PL.

I don't see anything that would make me think to list another stage. 9A has a weak clash, 9 doesn't have a clash. Your looks like it might have a second, weaker clash, but it's not listable.

Rotation under 15° isn't considered a big deal. Other features of the coins will help with the attribution more than the rotation will.

If there's no dash under the 8 and no doubled arrows, I'd call it VAM 5.

DHalladay wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:52 pm

The term I first heard about 25 years ago was "orange peel". I was told it's fairly common on 1901-Ps and I've seen it many times since on that date.

This thread has a lot of good stuff about "orange peel."

Lots of changes to the 80-S listings, making it a little easier to attribute that date. Former 7A is 122. since it's not related to VAM 7. 45A is now VAM 124, for a similar reason. 124 has the reverse shared with some 79-S's and the obverse of VAM 63, which shares a reverse with a few others, which ...

vamsterdam wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 05, 2022 5:38 pm

78s v96 should never have been removed. I still have the vam 96 79s and it has die gouges in the lower hair that i have never been seen on vam 43.

Can I borrow it and a VAM 43 during the ANA show so that John R and I can study how they're different?

Plausible, but nothing convincing from those pictures.

keilg1 wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:39 pm

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