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by lhnumis1
Tue Sep 19, 2023 10:27 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1883 O VAM 28
Replies: 4
Views: 51

Re: 1883 O VAM 28

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DOLLAR1883OLOT662C049REV7.jpg
'In' doubled as shown. Not shown are various letters of the reverse inscription that are slightly doubled or tripled at the bottom of some letters usually at the lower left or right serifs.
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DOLLAR1883OLOT662C049REV8.jpg
The 1st S of STATES exhibits a die gouge the the top as shown.
DOLLAR1883OLOT662C049REV8.jpg (20.75 KiB) Viewed 44 times
by lhnumis1
Tue Sep 19, 2023 10:07 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1883 O VAM 28
Replies: 4
Views: 51

Re: 1883 O VAM 28

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DOLLAR1883OLOT662C049REV2.jpg
The mintmark is set slightly low and tilted a bit left.
DOLLAR1883OLOT662C049REV2.jpg (56.02 KiB) Viewed 48 times
DOLLAR1883OLOT662C049REV3.jpg
Various fine lines in the wing-neck gap are noted.
DOLLAR1883OLOT662C049REV3.jpg (23.6 KiB) Viewed 48 times
DOLLAR1883OLOT662C049REV4.jpg
'trus' doubled at the top...the last 't' doubled at the bottom right.
DOLLAR1883OLOT662C049REV4.jpg (73.15 KiB) Viewed 48 times
DOLLAR1883OLOT662C049REV5.jpg
'We' doubled as shown.
DOLLAR1883OLOT662C049REV5.jpg (18.9 KiB) Viewed 48 times
DOLLAR1883OLOT662C049REV6.jpg
'God' doubled as shown...inside bottom of G may be tripled.
DOLLAR1883OLOT662C049REV6.jpg (40.53 KiB) Viewed 48 times
by lhnumis1
Tue Sep 19, 2023 9:58 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1883 O VAM 28
Replies: 4
Views: 51

Re: 1883 O VAM 28

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DOLLAR1883OLOT662C049OBV6.jpg
Several raised lines inside the ear near the bottom are noted, along with several lines outside of the ear to the right and below.
DOLLAR1883OLOT662C049OBV6.jpg (28.99 KiB) Viewed 48 times
DOLLAR1883OLOT662C049OBV7.jpg
The 1st 8 appears doubled slightly at the inside lower left of the upper loop. The 8 also appears doubled at the inside left of the lower loop.
DOLLAR1883OLOT662C049OBV7.jpg (13.6 KiB) Viewed 48 times
DOLLAR1883OLOT662C049OBV8.jpg
Various raised parallel lines are note under the Phrygian cap.
DOLLAR1883OLOT662C049OBV8.jpg (29.14 KiB) Viewed 48 times
DOLLAR1883OLOT662C049OBV9.jpg
Barely visible remnants of die gouges are noted emerging from the tips of the wheat ears in this LDS example.
DOLLAR1883OLOT662C049OBV9.jpg (31.43 KiB) Viewed 48 times
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Reverse
DOLLAR1883OLOT662C049REV.jpg (73.14 KiB) Viewed 48 times
by lhnumis1
Tue Sep 19, 2023 9:47 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1883 O VAM 28
Replies: 4
Views: 51

1883 O VAM 28

The VAM 28 later die state imaged below contains some images not shown on the VAM 28 web pages. Trust they may be of some help for attribution...
DOLLAR1883OLOT662C049OBV.jpg
Obverse
DOLLAR1883OLOT662C049OBV.jpg (69.15 KiB) Viewed 51 times
DOLLAR1883OLOT662C049OBV2.jpg
A Die scratch or polishing line emerges from the eye and continues downward on the nose where it terminates. A die scratch or polishing line is noted on the left of the the eyeball.
DOLLAR1883OLOT662C049OBV2.jpg (24.16 KiB) Viewed 51 times
DOLLAR1883OLOT662C049OBV3.jpg
The 1 appears doubled under the upper crossbar. A tiny notch indicative of doubling is noted on the upper right side of the upright.
DOLLAR1883OLOT662C049OBV3.jpg (17.28 KiB) Viewed 51 times
DOLLAR1883OLOT662C049OBV4.jpg
A die crack loop is noted on the forehead, emerging from and terminating in the hair.
DOLLAR1883OLOT662C049OBV4.jpg (27.14 KiB) Viewed 51 times
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The 3 appears doubled at the inside lower left.
DOLLAR1883OLOT662C049OBV5.jpg (11.6 KiB) Viewed 51 times
by lhnumis1
Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:25 am
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1882 1F (ish)?
Replies: 9
Views: 95

Re: 1882 1F (ish)?

Is it possible that VAM 1F series reverts back to a VAM 1 per revision 22 below? 4/2008 22 revision -Yes, has unlisted unusual die polishing lines in various directions on face! Could have been attempt to remove fine rust pits. No die clash marks. Absent the clash coin reverts back to VAM-1. Note di...
by lhnumis1
Sun Sep 17, 2023 5:57 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1882 VAM?
Replies: 20
Views: 176

Re: 1882 VAM?

I think we can put the VAM 1E2 to rest as the the lower hair does not match the subject coin on the obverse and the neck-wing junction on the reverse is remarkably different-see images below. In regard to VAM 11, it is true that the first 8 is temptingly close to the subject coin, but , the balance ...
by lhnumis1
Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:31 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1882 VAM?
Replies: 20
Views: 176

Re: 1882 VAM?

In examining the images of the 1E series, the only illustration close to the subject coin is the first image of the 1E2 under the title "ADDITIONAL PHOTOS: More Photos from the re-instated Coin Submitted to LVA in 2011". It illustrates the crack emerging to the left from the neck and continuing to t...
by lhnumis1
Sat Sep 16, 2023 5:19 am
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1882 VAM?
Replies: 20
Views: 176

Re: 1882 VAM?

Below, please find images of the Neck-Jaw clash, along with a second view of the lower hair VEE. Just quickly, with the coin in hand, I do not see evidence of I,N,G or R,U,S,T letter transfer on the obverse. Letter transfer from clashing on the reverse is also absent. At this point, my gut feeling i...
by lhnumis1
Fri Sep 15, 2023 8:46 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1882 VAM?
Replies: 20
Views: 176

Re: 1882 VAM?

Additional images...
DOLLAR1882LOT662C036OBV18.jpg
The area below the Phrygian cap on the subject coin appears absent any lines (red ellipse).
DOLLAR1882LOT662C036OBV18.jpg (13.56 KiB) Viewed 76 times
RBF1882-PV8-3808--003.jpg
The area below the Phrygian cap of VAM 8 exhibits a strong raised line (yellow arrow).
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DOLLAR1882LOT662C036REV10.jpg
The area of the upper tailfeathers of the subject coin appears to exhibit a single substantive raised line (red arrow).
DOLLAR1882LOT662C036REV10.jpg (20.56 KiB) Viewed 76 times
RBF1882-PV8-3808--004.jpg
The area of the upper tailfeathers of the VAM 8 appears to exhibit numerous raised lines (3 yellow arrows).
RBF1882-PV8-3808--004.jpg (117.66 KiB) Viewed 76 times
by lhnumis1
Fri Sep 15, 2023 8:31 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1882 VAM?
Replies: 20
Views: 176

Re: 1882 VAM?

Below find several images of the subject coin and their counterparts from the VAM 8 Webpage. At face value, I find it difficult to attribute the subject coin as a VAM 8 inasmuch as the images and their counterparts do not appear to match up... DOLLAR1882LOT662C036OBV16.jpg RBF1882-PV8-3808--001.jpg ...
by lhnumis1
Fri Sep 15, 2023 2:17 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1882 VAM?
Replies: 20
Views: 176

Re: 1882 VAM?

Apologies in advance for the resolution and quality of the image below. With the jury rigged, Rube Goldberg setup at hand and the less than optimal lighting available, it is the best I can manage. The red arrow points to the doubling on the right side of the ball of this closed 2. The black spike is...
by lhnumis1
Fri Sep 15, 2023 6:50 am
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1882 VAM?
Replies: 20
Views: 176

Re: 1882 VAM?

Thank you Albannach for your analysis...much appreciated. With regret I have to say that I am unable to match the VAM 15A with the subject coin. None of the die markers match any of the ones illustrated in my post. Also, I have not been able to match the subject coin to any other 1882 VAM. VAM 15 st...
by lhnumis1
Thu Sep 14, 2023 12:44 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1882 VAM?
Replies: 20
Views: 176

Re: 1882 VAM?

Thank you MarkyB for your response! Yes, it appears that the die cracks match up with VAM 15. However, there seems to be a problem which I would like to bring to your attention and ask for your thoughts on the matter. Below find several images. The first is of the subject coin with an image of the l...
by lhnumis1
Thu Sep 14, 2023 12:40 am
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1882 VAM?
Replies: 20
Views: 176

Re: 1882 VAM?

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DOLLAR1882LOT662C036REV6.jpg
Die crack at UNI.
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Die crack at TAT.
DOLLAR1882LOT662C036REV7.jpg (29.46 KiB) Viewed 162 times
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Die crack at OF.
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Die gouge at right star.
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by lhnumis1
Thu Sep 14, 2023 12:34 am
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1882 VAM?
Replies: 20
Views: 176

Re: 1882 VAM?

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DOLLAR1882LOT662C036REV.jpg
Reverse
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Wing clash
DOLLAR1882LOT662C036REV2.jpg (32.86 KiB) Viewed 164 times
DOLLAR1882LOT662C036REV3.jpg
VEE clash
DOLLAR1882LOT662C036REV3.jpg (37.68 KiB) Viewed 164 times
DOLLAR1882LOT662C036REV4.jpg
Clashes at upper left wreath
DOLLAR1882LOT662C036REV4.jpg (31.72 KiB) Viewed 164 times
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A die crack is exhibited between the O, left star & U-----.
DOLLAR1882LOT662C036REV5.jpg (44.15 KiB) Viewed 164 times
by lhnumis1
Thu Sep 14, 2023 12:26 am
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1882 VAM?
Replies: 20
Views: 176

Re: 1882 VAM?

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DOLLAR1882LOT662C036OBV9.jpg
Raised lines are exhibited below and between the cotton bolls.
DOLLAR1882LOT662C036OBV9.jpg (23.07 KiB) Viewed 164 times
DOLLAR1882LOT662C036OBV10.jpg
Double clashed lines emerge downward from the neck-jaw junction.
DOLLAR1882LOT662C036OBV10.jpg (26.62 KiB) Viewed 164 times
DOLLAR1882LOT662C036OBV11.jpg
Clash lines emerge from the lower chin, the upper chin to the lower lip, the lower lip, lower lip to the upper lip and from the upper lip. Raised lines are exhibit in the nostril.
DOLLAR1882LOT662C036OBV11.jpg (35.88 KiB) Viewed 164 times
DOLLAR1882LOT662C036OBV12.jpg
A clash line emerges into the field from the lower Phrygian cap.
DOLLAR1882LOT662C036OBV12.jpg (18.66 KiB) Viewed 164 times
DOLLAR1882LOT662C036OBV13.jpg
A raised line is exhibited at the top of the upright of the I of LIBERTY.
DOLLAR1882LOT662C036OBV13.jpg (10.67 KiB) Viewed 164 times
by lhnumis1
Thu Sep 14, 2023 12:09 am
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1882 VAM?
Replies: 20
Views: 176

Re: 1882 VAM?

Additional images...

DOLLAR1882LOT662C036OBV4.jpg
The 2 exhibits raised metal at the left of the lower loop.
DOLLAR1882LOT662C036OBV4.jpg (12.98 KiB) Viewed 167 times
DOLLAR1882LOT662C036OBV5.jpg
A die crack emerging from the right side of the neck passes through the date as indicated.
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DOLLAR1882LOT662C036OBV6.jpg
A die crack emerging from the left side of the neck passes through left stars 1 & 2 and terminates in the denticles to the left of star 2.
DOLLAR1882LOT662C036OBV6.jpg (22.78 KiB) Viewed 167 times
DOLLAR1882LOT662C036OBV7.jpg
The ear exhibits multiple diagonal lines at the inside bottom and doubling at the bottom of the earlobe.
DOLLAR1882LOT662C036OBV7.jpg (32.88 KiB) Viewed 167 times
DOLLAR1882LOT662C036OBV8.jpg
The right cotton boll exhibits raised lines at the lower left and lower right. It also exhibits raised lines emerging to the right from the cotton leaves to the right of the right cotton boll.
DOLLAR1882LOT662C036OBV8.jpg (30.85 KiB) Viewed 167 times
by lhnumis1
Wed Sep 13, 2023 11:36 pm
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1882 VAM?
Replies: 20
Views: 176

1882 VAM?

The subject coin resists my efforts at VAM attribution...
DOLLAR1882LOT662C036OBV.jpg
Obverse
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DOLLAR1882LOT662C036OBV2.jpg
The 1 is doubled under the upper crossbar. The Left 8 is doubled at the inside right of the upper loop.
DOLLAR1882LOT662C036OBV2.jpg (39.35 KiB) Viewed 168 times
DOLLAR1882LOT662C036OBV2B.jpg
The Left 8 is also doubled at the outside lower left of the upper loop.
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DOLLAR1882LOT662C036OBV2C.jpg
A clearer view of the doubling under the upper crossbar of the 1.
DOLLAR1882LOT662C036OBV2C.jpg (9.36 KiB) Viewed 168 times
DOLLAR1882LOT662C036OBV3.jpg
Slight surface doubling is exhibited at the outside lower left of the upper loop of right 8. The right side of the ball of the 2 is doubled.
DOLLAR1882LOT662C036OBV3.jpg (28.06 KiB) Viewed 168 times
by lhnumis1
Mon Sep 11, 2023 5:18 am
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1882 VAM 40 example
Replies: 2
Views: 51

Re: VAM 40 example

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DOLLAR1882LOT662C035OBV6.jpg
A 'C' shaped threadlike die impression is noted below the left end of the Phrygian cap ribbon
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DOLLAR1882LOT662C035OBV7.jpg
5 raised lines are noted in the base of the 'L' in 'LIBERTY'; a strong diagonal line is noted near the top of the upright of 'B' in 'LIBERTY'.
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DOLLAR1882LOT662C035OBV8.jpg
A strong diagonal line is noted at the base of the 'T' and 3 lines are noted at the base of the 'Y' in 'LIBERTY.
DOLLAR1882LOT662C035OBV8.jpg (20.14 KiB) Viewed 50 times
DOLLAR1882LOT662C035OREV.jpg
Reverse
DOLLAR1882LOT662C035OREV.jpg (70.44 KiB) Viewed 50 times
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A circular die chip is noted midway up in a flight feather.
DOLLAR1882LOT662C035OREV2.jpg (40.34 KiB) Viewed 50 times
by lhnumis1
Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:59 am
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: 1882 VAM 40 example
Replies: 2
Views: 51

1882 VAM 40 example

The example in hand appears to be a VAM 40. Images with additions not shown on the webpage are illustrated. It seems the the coin in hand indicates that the description on the webpage should indicate a doubled date instead of doubled --82... DOLLAR1882LOT662C035OBV.jpg DOLLAR1882LOT662C035OBV2.jpg D...

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