VAMWorld 2.0

There is a very incomplete list of significantly rotated dies somewhere in the beginning of the big VAM book. It is a starting point of course. I did an article on how to precisely measure the relative die rotation for Morgan dollars years ago. The follow-up article was supposed to be on extending t...

impairedsquirrel wrote: ↑

Thu May 18, 2023 4:44 pm

Just wanted to make sure you know that they made Morgans in a whole bunch of different years Dennis…
Nice group!

Sure. But those years are not ugly low-relief that I swear will go AU from MS if you so much as breathe in its direction.

I try to keep up with Logan. Fogie and I were just talking a week or so ago about dropping by his place sometime. Had the time to call him the other day, but had almost no voice then (a virus that's going around). I need to call him and Jeff (as I do not plan to go to Long Beach next month also) jus...

That 11A is one of only a few VAMs I actively look for. Hope they made more than one. It is remarkably tough.

Will be interesting to see if they will even grade problem coins. The CAC elitism might not take it there. As some of you know, I have been doing early (flowing hair and bust) dollar varieties for the past few years. A HUGE deficiency at PCGS and NGC, even though they do now slab rather than do thei...

Didn't know there was still a VAM-e going out. I have not received one in years and do not recall seeing any uploaded to the Registry server recently.

I did report it to NGC immediately as I said. I also sent them the seller's pics and will put them here for future reference.

Here is the real coin. I will report this eBay listing to NGC.

It was a great show. Didn't buy coins for myself (except some Daniel Carr candy). Only picked up books on Early Halves. I have avoided them entirely as I know my personality and would end up with a hundred of them within a month. To be disciplined, I am only chasing R-5 (maybe some R-4) Overtons and...

If you have a VAM-3, I could send this one. (obverse confirmation) Or fogie could send two VAM-2 ones (with and without fill in the CC- same die) and a VAM-3 (as I probably need to sell this one and not have it out of pocket long). I agree that revising VAM-2 is better, especially with legacy attrib...

chgolaw1 wrote: ↑

Sun May 07, 2023 8:32 pm

Very nice CC. What grade is it?

PCGS MS64 I seem to recall. The cert lookup will have it. I have not revisited the show inventory since returning from Denver.

Fogie and I went over this last Wednesday in Denver. He had all of his VAMs of the date and I had this coin. It appears this has been attributed in the past as VAM-2. However, it is now known to be at odds with the listing. The obverse is completely retain to be III(2)4, same as ine obverse fie used...

Here is the trueview, for another view.

It is possible that the reverse die was cleaned up, removing the "spit" and adding the gouges. I thought the 7 came after the 3? Exactly. I went over this quite a bit and my reasoning is a little out of sequence. Talked with fogie. He actually has a VAM-3 with him and we will be able to compare the...

P47037130-11-jbc.jpg Already sounds like re~classification vam3 by the description rev gets 3A TDITD That was my initial direction, except that the reverse is not the same, while similar. Dissimilar legend cracks, no leg/arrowshaft gouge on this one. Gouges in the eagle's nostril and eye, that are ...

The reverse is not a spitting eagle. It has a left tiled CC, nearly touching the ribbon. The second C is doubled (top). This particular stage I have has a slightly tilted field at S OF. My suspicion is that this is the coin Leroy saw and originally catalogued as VAM-2, but the doubled profile and C/...

The obverse is III(2)4, the same as on the VAM-3, Spitting Eagle. Near date, doubled profile, doubled ear bottom, die scratch in front of the eye and other die scratches.

Didn't think I would discover another 1891-CC after I discovered the VAM-8A. But I think I do have another.

This is the coin. I will go through the details in reply posts.

I just took the lead on the complete early dollar set (by 5 points!). Better fill a couple more slots before Mike overtakes me again. Friendly competition.

It looks it. I had a thread on the old VAMworld on these. I discovered the VAM-25 as a DMPL and sent it to Leroy I believe with a full progression of the obverse degradation from there, at least a half dozen stages. The 25A was already listed (as 1A or something like that) at the time. I showed it w...