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Hello, thread! Sorry I'm late; I just got back from a vacation in Paris. Briefly was thinking exclusively about ecu and five franc varieties and not at all about Morgans. But above all that, pastry... This example matches what Dennis has documented as D2 VNA-04: http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.com...

I feel a lack of closure in not determining the actual VAM; I can't definitively do so from the photos posted...

What vampicker said. The doubling is due to a flaw in the striking process for this particular coin.

Your example does also have a VAM designation, but we'd need to see date and mintmark position to help with that.

Looks like a VAM 30 to me. Nice pics!

The original VAM 60 listing is ambiguous, as several obverse dies have some amount of lower hair doubling. As such, you could call your coin that if you like since your coin does appear to have that feature. The example you posted doesn't appear to be VAM 79, as that is known to have strong polishin...

VAM 77 has been retired, as it is the same as VAM 69 EDS

Many of the 83P die pairs clashed and had somewhat significant breaks; I spent some time presenting LVA with progression examples of various dies to try and show how they changed over time. Very few of them seemed to merit differentiation to him. I still think there should be a VAM 17C... Before you...

VAM 20 LDS

I am inclined to agree with your more recent assessment that it is VAM 3BE EDS.

There are different scanning techniques that can work, as Roger pointed out; not a lot can be done with simple optics.

I've thought about scanning some of the Brazil 960 reis overstrikes for which I can't quite make out what's underneath...

I'll be a second voice in favor of GC, and point out that unlike Heritage they have no minimum submission.

Dealers buy the holder, collectors buy the coin. Post good photos of a pretty coin in the BST thread you might see results.

Thank you for making those changes, fogie! Sorry to keep messing with the 21P set.

Two other discrepancies between the 21P VAMworld page and the SSDC set are that the set isn't showing the VAM 1BU yet and for some reason VAM 3HG isn't listed.

Hey Dennis,
Your first photo pretty clearly matches VAM 3BQ3.
Your second photo shows an earlier die state than what I sent JB, so I would call that VAM 3BQ1 EDS.

Have the 3BQ1-2-3-4 stages pages been created? It does look like JB created the 3BQ3 and 3BQ4 pages, but pictures need to be reassigned from the 3BQ1/3BQ2 pages. I was trying to point out that there were at least three distinct die stages, but it got broken into four; 3BQ1: Before reverse polishing...

VAM 3Gi is retired, as it is redundant with VAM 3EF
Also, VAM 81/81A have been retired and divided into four stages, VAMs 3BQ1/2/3/4

These sort of gouges develop over time, so they're not always listed as part of a VAM description because they aren't inherent in the dies. What constitutes a gouge significant enough for separate LDS listing isn't entirely clear to me. There are a lot of examples of feed finger gouges over ED and A...

Could you please confirm that it's a D2 / 16 berry? There are a couple varieties that do have some feed finger activity in these areas, so another closeup somewhere else would help. Personally, I don't often look at the scribbles area because they flatten out so quickly as the die ages; I often look...

Vam-mysterio wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 01, 2023 11:51 pm

Always send item shown in pictures
Never a problem
Hope that helps

I very much agree, although I will also note that a lot of their ebay auctions are "this is a stock image" so the item you get isn't what is pictured, so watch for the specifics of the auction.

One word of caution - it's easy to start a die study, but it is rare to find full closure.

I feel that closure, at least for now, with the 1885 O set. But not for either the 1899 P or 1883 P sets.
I still have my white whales that compel me to keep searching, searching...

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