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Would love to help on these, Dennis, but would really like to see something other than scribbles. Whatever stands out.

Hey Dennis,

I have an example that matches this, and the handwriting on it looks like yours and says VAM 1BE. So I think if you sold this to me you must already have another VAM 1BE kicking around. So check a sixth time, please.

(Your lovely photos always make this so much easier!)

Oh là là , c'est magnifique!
Je pense que c'était un jeton de bordel à Paris.
(I think that this was a Parisian brothel token)

ljs123 wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:24 am

My vote is 1AG.

I agree.

Admission: I really don't like scribbles. I rarely ever look at them. They're frustrating and often more confusing than helpful.

I vaguely recognized the double polishing lines at the lips, and looked through my coins until I found it.

It appears to be a very nice example of VAM 3HA1

I agree it's VAM 3BB!

I started a "21P die crack break guide - guidance / discussion" thread a while ago, mostly to say that we should add break diagrams for both 3BB and 3CV. Haven't gotten around to figuring out the best way to make these...

I am indeed hoping that a reexamination of LVA's photos may help sort out some of the 21Ps, especially those for which a photo hasn't been published. One more to add - I think that VAM 1BA is an early die state of VAM 1Z. Attributed examples both show a die file line to the first S in states, that w...

Actually, it's probably a VAM 94. Die breaks aren't big enough to be a 29A. Now more curious about the collar type...

That sure looks like a VAM 29A from here. Check the collar.

This looks like a strike-through error, most likely through a blob of grease.

It's a cool error coin! Can't see enough detail to know what die variety it is...

Congrats on combining 3AA and 3FU, and congrats on the 3HR! I disagree with the VAM 1 attribution, it has many listable PUPs. Well, you were saying that you didn't have an actual VAM 1 before, so now perhaps you do. And like perhaps like other date/mintmark combinations this VAM 1 can be unique and ...

Hi gang, Well, just got what is likely my final package back from LVA. Resolved one minor 1921P issue, in that LVA formally killed VAM 1BP as it is now VAM 1BN2. Got totally shot down on another; I sent in a VSS attributed 1921P VAM 50 that I didn't think matched the plate photo but LVA thought it m...

Thank you for your feedback, gentlemen! I've been doing so much cross-referencing lately between different 21P examples and various photos and descriptions available. It's sad/funny how there are about a dozen pairs that are likely duplicates, but there aren't enough photos available to be sure. Two...

I am so heartened to hear that it's you three taking on this mantle and sharing this load, as you're all clearly so knowledgeable and passionate about die varieties. Congratulations!

Will there be any change in the format of new designations to signify that they are post-LVA?

As I gather further 1921P examples, I’m becoming better able to make comparisons and connections between different listings, such that I’m finding more examples of what may be duplicates. I was planning on addressing these with LVA soon, but with the recent announcement by Dr. Fey perhaps I must wai...

The main surprise to me isn't that LVA might (finally) be relinquishing sole control of the catalog of Morgan and Peace die varieties, but that it is Dr. Fey who has made this acquisition. He's certainly very knowledgeable and has a strong numismatic history, but he's been so dormant for the past de...

Fascinating! Very curious to see how this develops. Also very curious about my package now with LVA - hope it didn't get sold to Dr. Fey. Was just preparing what to send LVA next for a few potential 21P kills before year-end, but I guess I'll have to address those issues later with "the new guard" w...

I agree with butter pick:

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Thanks for that feedback, agreement, and photos, Dennis! I'm waiting for a small parcel to come back from Sydney Ohio soon, but I may pursue this in my next submission/conversation with LVA. I think I have enough of a range of die states to show its history. I was also thinking I may try to show tha...